John McCain's suicide attempt and his resulting PTSD

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John McCain's suicide attempt and his resulting PTSD

Postby Dispatch » Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:32 am

McCain says because he survived 5½ years of brutal torture, while a prisoner of the communist Vietnamese, he is better qualified to be president of the United States than any other candidate. McCain claims his POW sufferings included three years in solitary confinement where he was tortured so badly that he "broke," causing him to attempt suicide.

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http://usvetdsp.com/dec07/mccain_suicide_ptsd.htm
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Postby streetsweeper95B » Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:55 am

Ugh..........and John F'ng sKerry wants to be his VPOTUS, huh Ted?
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Re: John McCain's suicide attempt and his resulting PTSD

Postby Chuck58 » Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:48 am

Dispatch wrote:McCain says because he survived 5½ years of brutal torture, while a prisoner of the communist Vietnamese, he is better qualified to be president of the United States than any other candidate. McCain claims his POW sufferings included three years in solitary confinement where he was tortured so badly that he "broke," causing him to attempt suicide.

For the rest of the story,
http://usvetdsp.com/dec07/mccain_suicide_ptsd.htm


"In 1996, McCain encountered a group of POW/MIA family members outside a Senate hearing room. The family members were some of the same who worked tirelessly during the Vietnam War to make sure Hanoi released all U.S. POWs - including POW McCain.

McCain immediately began quarreling with the POW/MIA family members, who were eager to question him on the issue of what happened to their loved ones.

Instead showing courtesy and appropriate compassion by answering their questions, the Arizona senator pushed through the group, shoving them out of his way, nearly toppling the wheelchair of POW/MIA mother Jane Duke Gaylor. Her son, Charles Duke, a civilian worker in Vietnam, is among 2,300 American POWs and MIAs still unaccounted for by the communists.

The POW/MIA families, shocked at McCain's overly aggressive behavior toward Mrs. Gaylor, registered complaints with senate officials."

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This is one of the incidents involving mccain that I mentioned here a couple of times, just as I've mentioned that mccain has unresolved issues that need to be taken care of and not hidden under the rug.

The above aside, mccain is a former POW. kerry the Traitor, chair of the committee outside which the above incident happened, as much as admitted that a couple of hundred POW's may still be in Vietnam or Laos. These men, both Vets, one a former POW, thought nothing of abandoning brothers to further their own careers.

Both these men want to be President, yet both were more than willing to abandon those couple of hundred men. Not only were they willing to abandon them, they signed off on the committee findings which basically signed the death warrants of the remaining SE Asia POW's. Mccain especially ought to have disagreed, yet he didn't, because he was putting politics and his own goals first. This isn't someone I'd want in the White House.

Thanks in part to many Veterans, kerry the Traitor was sunk. Now, we have to get to work to stop mccain, who seems to be making a comeback.
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Postby streetsweeper95B » Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:33 pm

Right on target, Chuck!
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Postby doctorhugo » Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:22 pm

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..., but most of all we do not forget or forgive those most despicable individuals who virtually guaranteed that MIAs/POWs would be used as pawns in international politics with no real accounting nor any official concern, save feckless lip-service....
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Postby streetsweeper95B » Tue Dec 25, 2007 3:25 pm

doc? ya gotta shrink the flashing image, ugh! Thanks!
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Postby doctorhugo » Tue Dec 25, 2007 3:38 pm

Sorry about that!

Did not realize that lifting and reposting images as I was is "hotlinking".

(I've removed the flashing reminder placed there by the forum's almighty and learned the proper protocol for reposting of images. As I say...Life is a learning experience.)
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Postby darthyorktown » Tue Dec 25, 2007 7:54 pm

streetsweeper95B wrote:Ugh..........and John F'ng sKerry wants to be his VPOTUS, huh Ted?

Lol really?
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Postby Doc Ford » Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:52 pm

McCain's behavior on the POW issue runs counter to the dictum "no man left behind" that was drilled into his brain at the academy, and is not consistent with "duty, honor, country."

The question is - what would motivate him to abandon his fellow POWs? Whatever it is, it must be huge. You do not simply turn your back on your training and family history.
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Postby Chuck58 » Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:37 pm

Maybe somebody else here can remember. Everything I had either disappeared when a website I helped with was taken down after the last election, or vanished when my old computer died.

kerry the Traitor wanted normalization of relations with Vietnam because, as I recall, a relative of his had a multibillion dollar port deal in the wings, or something to that effect. I have absolutely no doubt kerry the Traitor also managed a piece of that deal, probably under the table (as if he needs the money). I'm not sure where mccain fit into that deal, or if he did.

McCain is motivated by ambition. He wants the Presidency just as badly as kerry the Traitor wanted it, maybe even more. To gain it, he'd sell his soul to the devil. And being President is huge. It's the most powerful and influential job in the world. He's been after it for a couple of elections.
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Doc and Chuck

Postby doctorhugo » Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:10 pm

I think you've both hit on two keys of why the Two Johns in search of Jane buried the POW/MIA issue.

Doc, You wondered on his behavior in capture and turning his back on his training. I think he rationalized and justified that he would do what it took to survive. I say that, because he's of the same predisposition as a civilian (politician). It's why I call him The Great Compromisor. He wants to be seen accomplishing something...anything, to justify himself. That pattern of behavior I would suggest is very similar in both his situations and his anger at being questioned bears on a subliminal guilt he doesn't have the guts to deal with. Don't forget his father and grandfather were of Admiral Navy rank and much was expected of he who fell way short of the mark. So, why not highly polish the "survivor' until he shines like a "hero"? Then, he further tarnished himself with the S&L scandal and his involvement therein.

Chuck. You remembered quite accurately. As I recall the name of the relative was Forbes and it was a multi-billion $ deal dependent upon a "normalization" of relations. Need we state more!

Two turds who collectively form a turdpile.
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Postby Dispatch » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:12 am

"In December of 1992, not long after Kerry was quoted in the world press stating "President Bush should reward Vietnam within a month for its increased cooperation in accounting for American MIAs," Vietnam announced it had granted Colliers International, based in Boston, Massachusetts, a contract worth billions designating Colliers International as the exclusive real estate agent representing Vietnam.
That deal alone put Colliers in a position to make tens of millions of dollars on the rush to upgrade Vietnam's ports, railroads, highways, government buildings, etc. C. Stewart Forbes, Chief Executive Officer of Colliers International, is Kerry's cousin. Kerry was portrayed in The New Yorker as a proud Vietnam veteran and ‘war hero' who, as chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, dared to take on and defeat the ‘mendacious POW lobby.'"
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http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.org/story10.htm
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Postby Chuck58 » Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:34 am

"There is also no doubt the POW/MIA families and Vietnam veteran activists know the truth and recognize Kerry for what he truly is--a traitor, hypocrite, liar and chameleon."

Ted Sampley had him pegged in 1996. He was proven right in 2004. McCain hitched his wagon to a dead horse. If mccain somehow revitalizes his campaign, it WILL come back to haunt him. I'm surprised it hasn't by now.
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Postby Doc Ford » Wed Dec 26, 2007 8:04 am

McCain's actions (or, should I say inaction) on the POW/MIA issue is first and foremost a window into his soul. It reveals a total lack of loyalty and character.

The MSM treats those of us still pushing for answers on the POWs/MIAs, as fringe lunatics, much as the 9/11 Truth idiots.

The issue still resonates with older veterans, particularly Vietnam Vets. At this stage of the game, I don't think most civilians or the post-Vietnam War veterans really get it. They are not familiar with the long history of asian cultures holding POWS ad infinitum, and the specific evidence of post-war sightings of Americans in POW camps or prisons in Vietnam and Russia, or the sightings of service members who are officially listed as KIA.

We are dealing with two exigencies - first, educating the public and getting our people back; and, revealing the truth about McCain.

In some respects, McCain is as much a traitor as is Kerry - maybe more so, since he relies on his former-POW status for political gain while actively hindering the search for his fellow POWs.
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Postby streetsweeper95B » Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:44 pm

What would be interesting gentlemen & women is to find out if Colliers Int is a regular contributor to McCains campaign efforts. Anyway to find out whose whom & that kind of thing?
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